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Cancer Revolution: The Metabolic Approach to Cancer with Maggie and Brad Jones

Cancer Revolution: The Metabolic Approach to Cancer with Maggie and Brad Jones

Cancer is one of the most terrifying things to happen to anyone. Not only that, cancer treatments are always in a rush to remove tumours, making you think that this is the only way. Clinical practice is years behind clinical research, and there are now additional and alternative ways to boost your health and treat cancer.  

The research can be difficult to understand and read through, especially when you’re in the thick of cancer. Our guests today share their newest project — a documentary all about the metabolic approach to cancer with researchers and cancer thrivers all in one place!

In this episode, Maggie Jones shares how her experience with cancer became the inspiration for CanceRevolution. She credits both traditional therapy and metabolic therapy as the key to treating her condition and prolonging her life. Brad and Maggie hope that their documentary can reach people and spread the word about the metabolic approach to cancer. Don’t just blindly follow doctors who won’t have the time to do research for you. Instead, start taking ownership of your health! 

If you want to learn more about the metabolic approach to cancer and the CanceRevolution documentary, then this episode is for you!

Here are three reasons why you should listen to the full episode:

  1. Discover how Maggie’s journey with cancer led her and her husband to work on the upcoming documentary, CanceRevolution.
  2. Learn about traditional radiation therapy and how incorporating the metabolic approach to cancer can help you!
  3. Find out how to take ownership of your health and stay disciplined even after beating cancer.

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Episode Highlights

[04:00] Maggie’s Journey with Cancer

In 2018, Maggie was diagnosed with lung cancer and was told that she had less than a year to live. At first, Maggie accepted her fate, but she started to learn more about how she can help her body heal. 

Maggie took up fasting, a ketogenic diet, organic foods, and metabolic treatments. A year after her diagnosis, she was cancer-free. While Maggie is not dealing with cancer anymore, she has been dealing with the effects of cancer medicine that was used on her. 

Cancer treatment often feels too rushed. It would be better to spread out treatments and lower their dosage. 

[08:27] How Maggie’s Cancer Affected Brad

Brad tried to hide how much Maggie’s cancer impacted him emotionally. At the same time, he felt that Maggie was strong enough to face and survive cancer. He learned all about metabolic treatments through Maggie and served as her reminder. 

Brad even started eating Maggie’s diet and fasted with her.

[12:13] How Fasting Can Help Before Treatments

Maggie used to think eating healthy was good. After a tumour surgery, she was vomiting and sweating. However, she tried fasting before the surgery and found that she felt great after the procedure.

Fasting is known to be able to “close” normal cells while the cancer cells are still active and looking for energy. When exposed to radiation, the cancer cells get more affected. Clinical research takes around 17 years before becoming part of clinical practice.

[15:39] Genetics and Epigenetics

Combining hyperbaric therapy, a strict diet, and exogenous ketones can make a big difference. Yet, this practice is not common in cancer treatment. The industry focuses more on DNA, even though there have been more discoveries about biochemistry since then. 

Genetics and epigenetics are different. The former is about the genes themselves, while the latter looks at what turns the genes on and off. Our environment and behaviour affect the way our genes work.

Differentiation of cells is the true cause of aging.

[18:49] The Warburg Effect

Cancers can and will change their way of using energy. Even when oxygen is available, cancer cells use fermentation, which is not as efficient. The Warburg effect is already a fact. What’s not being studied is why this is happening. 

There is the genetic theory where genes mutate and cause cell changes, while the other theory is the other way around. Cutting off the cancer cells’ food source is the start. This includes glucose, glutamine, and so much more. 

You can block cancer cell growth with diet, off label drugs, and specific protocols for specific cancers. Learn more about these in the full episode! 

[24:48] Why Starving Cancer Can Help 

The biggest criticism of starving cancer is that cancer cells can adapt to different metabolic pathways. While starving cancer may not lead to curing it, it can help you buy time. The drug protocols have lower side effects than traditional therapy and radiation surgery.

[25:48] How to Use Press Pulse 

Due to cancer’s adaptability, you can expect to change protocols every so often. Maggie shares that press pulse can be helpful. 

This is using a certain protocol first, then switching to something else once cancer adapts and eventually reintroducing the first protocol. 

[27:57] Always Be Vigilant 

Brad cautions people not to think they’re cured of cancer and go back to unhealthy foods and habits. We all have some cancer cells. Your immune system needs to be strong enough to fight against it.

Even if your cancer markers are gone, retaining a ketogenic diet can still be helpful. Exogenous ketones are not fermentable as a food source for cancer. 

[33:05] Maggie and Brad’s Documentary, CanceRevolution

Maggie and Brad’s documentary about cancer includes guests who are at the forefront of cancer research and people who have experienced cancer. The documentary is still a work in progress. Donations are highly appreciated. This is all about sharing the metabolic approach to cancer and understanding how cancer works.

In the medical profession, doctors can lose their license if they go all-in on the metabolic approach to cancer, even if it has been proven effective. The profession has shown that money drives what is promoted or not. Thus, we need to be proactive and take ownership of our health.

[42:36] Take Ownership of Your Health

While somatic mutation, genetic theory, and metabolic theory are not yet proven, technologies can be built around it to prove it. For example, the PET scan is a cancer diagnostics tool based on the Warburg Effect. 

As a patient, you have to be your own advocate and not just blindly listen to doctors. Read books and clinical research. 

Remember that you’re in control of your body. 

About Maggie and Brad

Maggie Jones has over 20 years of media experience and is currently the Vice President of Newsrooms Systems for South China Morning Post and Vice President of Product for Tribune Publishing and the Los Angeles Times. She is also the founder of Jones Wellness, LLC, a content creation, marketing, and consulting firm in the wellness and nutrition space. In addition, she is a stage 4 cancer thriver who credits metabolic therapy and conventional targeted therapy in prolonging her life. 

Brad Jones has over 20 years of filmmaking experience and is the Executive Producer of Jones Wellness, LLC. He has edited films, from a Peabody Award-winning documentary to the highest-rated shows on MTV and CMT and has spent over a decade working at the Sundance Film Lab and Festival. 

Know more and support their upcoming documentary, CanceRevolution!  

You can also connect with Brad on his website, LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram. Connect with Maggie on LinkedIn.

Powerful Quotes

[9:18] “When, we were together, I just always had this feeling that she was going to make it through. I don't know why, but I was just like — I knew my wife. I knew how strong she was. And if anyone is going to fight this disease, it's her.” — Bradley 

[25:05] “I was given the six to eight months to live. My starving cancer bought me another three years of life. This is time to address the next pathway when it comes up and to wait for the next conventional therapy that might help me and all the new research that's coming out. Though it's not going to cure your cancer, it's going to buy you time and buy you incredible quality of life.” — Maggie 

[28:30] “It's really hard to be completely cured. Your cancer is always somewhere. We all have some. My immune system is holding its own, whilst Maggie’s wasn’t. That's basically what happened is her immune system couldn't fight it off anymore.” — Bradley

[32:21] “So having these exogenous ketones can really help just for athletes, as well as cancer patients, but it's really — it's teaching your body to be metabolically flexible.” — Lisa

[34:12] “...she's [Dr Nasha Winters] lived such a powerful life helping others. She was diagnosed too late in her progression to ever receive chemotherapy. And I think that's really what we can all strive for is even if scans aren’t perfect, you can still live such a long, full life and don't give up hope.” — Maggie 

[49:32] “One of the things that Maggie and I tell try and tell everyone is you have to be — as a patient, you have to be your own advocate. Do not just listen to what your doctor is saying — your oncologist or any doctor. They only meet with you for a half hour, right? Like Maggie sees her oncologist for like about a half hour once every three months.” — Bradley

[55:11] “I'm not unlucky. There are very clear therapeutic things that I can do, that I did to get cancer, that I can do to get out of it. And we need to promote this message of you're in control of your medical destiny. Don't just listen to somebody else who tells you it's a lost cause.” — Maggie


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